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Wednesday, 20 December 2017

The Substitute

 I just feel led to repost a post I put up a few years ago, as I feel very strongly about this subject.

Where will You be Lord this Christmas
Where will You be Lord this Christmas
as far as the world is concerned
out of all that You've taught us these two thousand years
is there anything anyone's learned
Do they know that Your judgement is coming to all
do they know there's an end to Your grace
that Your Spirit will not strive forever with man
that there's always an end to a race
Can't they see all the signs of Your coming
how your truths are all being unfurled
of the earthquakes, the wars and disasters
and the lawlessness gripping this world
Have we chosen to each go our own foolish way
do we all sing our own selfish song
are we doing what's right in our own blinded eyes
even though we know You say it's wrong
Has the world turned its back on You Jesus
do they think the cross lies in the past
can't they see it was just the beginning
that the end's spinning close very fast
Yes where will You be Lord this Christmas
in a world full of darkness and sin
will Your light be shut out of so many homes
while a Santa and tinsel come in
Will they close their ears to Your knocking
while You stand at the door one more time
and will they still be stood at the chimney
when the clock makes its final chime?
' For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came and took them all away;  so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.'   Matthew ch.24 vs.38,39
Do we really recognize the wiles of SATAN (which rearranged spells SANTA), and have we really noticed how Jesus is being replaced at this time of year.
The Substitute
He's trying to take Your place Lord
he's been at it for many years
he says 'I come with gifts for all
I'll wipe away your tears'                          
He wears a robe of scarlet
and a smile is on his face
but no one would guess the heartache
he will bring to many a place
He shows himself late November
in each home he will surely appear
he demonstrates toys on the tele
and says 'Christmas is nearly here'
Each year they get more expensive 
a computer or chemistry set
he slowly puts pressure on parents
who are tempted to go into debt
All children are told 'Santa's coming
he's got a great bag on his back'
but nobody seems to be bothered
that daddy has just had the sack
'I'll start with the youngest children'
says the 'Tempter' in disguise
never mind if mummy is crying
as to make ends meet she tries
He's trying to take Your place Lord
as he sits inside every store
and shouts a loud 'Merry Christmas'
to each person that comes through the door
But the spirit he drinks is not Holy
and the hands he holds out do not heal
the words that he speaks bring no wisdom
and the love that he shows is not real
How strange he should come at Christmas
and offering gifts like You do
and he's known to many as 'father'
while a baby child represents You
But for me there is only one Father
and of Him alone will I sing
while His Son is no longer a baby
He's a two thousand year old king!
Yes he's trying to take Your place Lord
'though he knows that his time is short
but the presents he brings can never compare
to the wonderful gift You have brought
For whatever disguise he may come in
and whatever good thing he might bring
the one thing he never will offer
is salvation through JESUS the king
So never a red robed Santa
will ever adorn my front door
it's the blood of my Lord on my doorpost
brings me peace and goodwill evermore

' They have lyre and harp, timbrel and flute and wine at their feasts; but they do not regard the deeds of the Lord, or see the work of His hands. '              
 Isaiah ch.5 v.12

Oh light of Heaven - Holy king
of whom the hosts of angels sing
rekindle flame in darkened Earth
by stirring those of second birth
to speak with boldness of the love
sent by the Father from above
When on a night so dark and cold
was prophesy fulfilled of old
a child to maid of no renown
was born to wear man's thorny crown
to bear the shame and take the place
of mankind fallen from God's grace
Who now, with sin beneath His feet
stands at the side of God's own seat
declaring peace forever more
to those who enter through the door
of righteousness gained by God's Son
.......the Father's gift to everyone

'and the government will be on His shoulders, and He will be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah ch.9 v.6


Keith said...

The answer to your post question is the same for every other day. God does not recognize Christmas as an ordained holy day. as you know, God tells us not to hold any day above any other day. The exception being the five holy days ordained within the Torah.

As for Christmas, December 25, what did we expect would happen when it’s roots were not holy? December 25 started with the killing of tens of thousands of Jews and Messianic Christian so they could move it from the 15th of Tishrei to the birthdate of the pagan son God. Satan‘s fingerprints are all over Christmas, December 25. Also, I am not surprised that Satan would blatantly rearrange the letters of his name so he could be the center of that pagan holiday.

With all that said, and getting back to the main question, the Lord resides within the heart of the remnant every day of the year.

Keith said...

I’m sorry if that last comment comes off a little emotional. But it irritates me to no end when I think about most Christians giving one or two hours to God on Christmas but the rest to the celebration of the sun God by giving gifts, or decorating trees, burning the Yuletide log, Burning incense within the sanctuary of God, etc. We don’t give a second thought to the thousands of Jews and Christians that were slaughtered. I don’t want to be a downer, but it breaks my heart and makes me cry.

Brenda said...

Hi Keith,
I do agree with you that December 25th began as a pagan celebration. However, what comes to my mind is the fact that as a child the nativity was always present at Christmas. That, and Easter were the main ways of bringing the knowledge of Jesus to children.
These days there is nothing, even taught in schools, that speaks of Jesus. It is as if it is being brought about that knowledge of Him is being taken away.
To me it does not matter what day Jesus is brought to light and His coming into the world spoken of. The main thing is that He IS spoken of to those who do not know Him. I know that the Lord resides within the heart of the remnant, but it is those who do not know Him that have to be brought into the fold.

Brenda said...

Just to add, Keith, the question asked at the beginning of my post is:- 'Where will you be Lord this Christmas as far as the WORLD is concerned?'
This is speaking about those who are not saved, those of this world, who do not know Him.

I did not see your comment as coming off a little emotional Keith, nothing to apologize for. I do not celebrate Christmas since I have become born again, but I do use it as a means to reach those who have not come to Jesus yet. I love the way that God draws outsiders to Jesus.

Keith said...

That was the point of my comment. God resides within the heart of the remnant to show others the way to him every day, not one special day or season. God is calling out to the lost and the Remnant every day, not on a special day.

As for when you were a child, you were unique, in that most children think of Santa, presents, Easter eggs and bunny rabbits, rather than the Messiah. That includes those of our age and older, when we look back over the years.

.When you said that Christmas and Easter were the main ways of bringing thevmessage to the children, isn’t that part of the problem? We give into the world, when we give into their ways, rather than God’s ways.

In the end, as far as our position in Christ, it really doesn’t matter whether we celebrate Christmas, Easter or not. However, I do believe and Scripture backs me up that when we don’t do it God‘s way, and give in to the Worlds way, which is Satan‘s way, we deprive ourselves of a closer relationship with God during this time on earth. Wouldn’t you rather be obedient than disobedient? We make excuses every day that leads to deliberate disobedience and Praise God for the blood of the Messiah but covers that disobedience. I always ask myself one question when I discuss things like this and that is, if I stood before God and he asked why didn’t you do it my way, would it hold any water if I responded with our excuses? The answer is obviously no.

Now, I hope that you don’t feel that I’m coming down on you, because I come down on myself also just as hard. For years, I continue to watch my family and friends celebrate Christmas and Easter in the same way that you and I did as a child and it saddens me. Not because I feel I’m better than them, but because of the loss of closeness with God. I believe that will be one of the things that we shed tears for, during the 1000 years after the rapture. Great conversation! Thanks for putting up with my rant..

Brenda said...

I had to smile as I read your last comment. I do not think you are coming down on me at all. I think that when someone is communicating with someone else simply through writing, they may imagine how the other person is receiving their point of view, and if they heard the way it was received it would show that it was a discussion regarding one's views and not an argument.

In 1 Corinthians ch. 9 v.20 Paul the apostle says:- 'To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.'

God has the ability to reach all, and I have always loved that.

I feel that, although I do not recognize Christmas and Easter as anything to do with Jesus birth and sacrifice, they give me the opportunity to act as Paul the apostle did in order to play my part in evangelizing. I have had many wonderful conversations in the streets on these events with people who would not come into a church building but want to know about Jesus.

Brenda said...

I just read up on the story of Hanukah and Antiochus about two hundred years BC. I had not known about that happening.
It is exactly what is happening in the spiritual today. The things of God are being blanked out by the traditions of man, and this is what I am referring to in my post - that even on days that used to speak about Jesus coming into this world, the enemy is making sure this is not happening by bringing 'Santa' in as the 'gift giver'.

Keith said...

I agree, Brenda. As a side note, I noticed that you weren't over at the blog today.....not that you have to come over, but Cheryl left you a message. I'll send her an email to point her over to your blog. Better yet, I'll just put a reminder on my blog to all those guys. Cheryl is over 90 years old (I think she's 92) and very cantankerous, at times, but you got to love her. She reminds me of you. She's not afraid to hold her ground. God Bless you, my sister.

Keith said...

By the way, I don't know if you noticed, there is a link at the bottom of the comment, that says 'show more'. It appears after there is over 200 comments. I don't know how to fix it. You have to click on it to see the comments afterwards.

Brenda said...

Hi Keith,
I was over at your blog earlier this morning (it is coming up as me being somewhere in Scotland now :-), but we have been out for most of the day.
I shall pop over now to see Cheryl's comment.

Brenda said...

Hi again Keith,
just viewed your blog. There is loads to read, it is getting a little late here, will go over to read all tomorrow.

Tim said...

I disagree with a few things both of you a little here. I will number them just for convenience sake only.

1. I refer to Romans 14:6---

"he one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God."

If someone wants to celebrate the day of Christmas and does it for the Lord, either in remembrance, honor, worship, or whatever the need/cause then there is nothing wrong with that.

I understand what you are saying. All of the capitalism/liberalism/satanism that comes with it should not be honored by Christians. But if I buy a gift for someone and do it out of Christian love to also honor Christ, such as when He was given gifts as an example, then there is nothing wrong with it. If I do it to gain someone's love or for a promotion or to sacrifice some human developed idea then I am wrong. And I get that most of the world does that but we don't.

But we do the same thing for people in our lives around their birthday. We shower them with gifts and honor their day of birth. I had plenty of people wish me a happy birthday. Was that wrong for them to take the time out to say that for me? After all I am a child of God and people should treat me good each day...... :)

2. Satan and Santa being similar in spelling is just a coincidence. HaSatan is Hebrew, Santa is a twist of words badly translated from the Dutch. That is like saying Saint and Satin are very closely related. All saints must wear satin. However I do see the symbolism in what you are saying. The Catholics have St Nicholas feast on Dec 6 which of course he was known for giving out gifts. The name actually has a lot to do with Christianity and the names that is also associated with him. Granted I don't know if the saint dude was real or not but w all know many legends do have their starts with some truth.

3. I would much rather take something away from the pagans and distort their ideas then have it the other way around. It makes me angrier to think that the rainbow is no longer a sign from God but a sign of homosexual pride.

4. To say that to celebrate December 25 is wrong due to what Antiochus did is going a slight bit to the extreme. Yes, what he did was wrong and one of the worst things that could happen. But three years later the Jews rededicated the Temple on the same day to try and wipe out that memory---Hanukkah. Was that wrong for them? Jesus celebrated Hanukkah. Was He wrong to do so? I think what the church tried to do was to over shadow the pagan holiday with something that was supposed to be filled with Christ. Now, I do agree though that it was probably done so in haste and His real birthday should be commemorated in September. If someone was born on September 11 do I stop celebrating their birthday due to that tragedy? The Jews have Yom HaShoah to remember the Holocaust victims; if someone had a birthday on that day should I not acknowledge them?

5. It isn't just one day, we take a "season" to honor Him.

6. You give every day and every month to honor Norse and Roman gods...
Sunday---day of the sun
Monday---day of the moon
Tuesday---Tiw's day
Wednesday---Woden's day
Thursday---Thor's day
Friday---Frigg's day
Saturday---day of Saturn

February---Februum festival
July---Julius Caesar
August----Augustus Caesar

Let's not be hypocritical.

My main point is this: If we honor Christ in this time and get rid of pagan rituals at the same time would be best. But to honor Jesus completely is what we need to do.

Brenda said...

'If someone wants to celebrate the day of Christmas and does it for the Lord, either in remembrance, honour, worship, or whatever the need/cause then there is nothing wrong with that'
I agree with what you say here.
What I am referring to here is the fact that the enemy is becoming the strongpoint here. There are two days of the year that Jesus could be spoken of to children, and that is Christmas and Easter. I don't know what it is like in America, but in the UK, everything regarding these days is commercialism, and there is nothing about Jesus at this time that could be spreading the good news of salvation through Him.
There is nothing wrong with giving gifts to people, whatever the day, and I really don't mind if you do not agree with what I have written. I always say to all that it is alright to agree to disagree, but I believe absolutely I have been given this post to put up to emphasise the fact that Jesus is being taken out of where He was included previously as far as the general public is concerned.

Tim said...


I do not disagree with that. Seems like wherever "Christian" nations are they have become secularized in the last 50 years. It's the same in the US. No prayer in school. People want God out of politics, schools, streets, and some even want to shut down churches.

The two major days of Christian "religion", Christmas and Resurrection Sunday are now just time to get the economy going.

I just want to make sure we don't demonize those who truly in their hearts are doing all of this for Jesus. We can't let the secular world destroy everything.

Brenda said...

Absolutely agree Tim,
when I was going out into the streets back in Wales with my friend, we found loads of people who were not Christian, no matter what time of year, eager to hear the gospel of salvation through Jesus. I know many Christians who buy gifts at Christmas, I am giving gifts to my Son and his family as they are giving us, but that does not take away the fact that Jesus has disappeared from the scene and Santa has taken His place, and my family know that I do not 'celebrate' the modern 'Xmas'. Even the 'X' reveals the removal of Jesus from the scene to me.
That is why I love sharing what I believe the Lord has given me to share, as I am sure you love sharing what you have been given. I love all people, the war is not with flesh and blood, it is spiritual warfare.

Keith said...

Tim, I agree that you can celebrate any day. Also, as Hebrew 6 indicates, don't hold it against a fellow brother for celebrating days like paganized days, such as Christmas. However, please look at the opening verse to Romans 14. The subject are those who are weak in the faith and don't know any better, not those who should be strong in the faith.

"Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on his opinions."

In contrast, those, who are mature in the faith should know better and celebrate God's ordained days, as an example to the those who are weak in the faith, so they will begin to persue God and his ways.

As Brenda and I were discussing earlier in the comment section, we should stealthly assimilate into the pagan culture, in order to further the kingdom, not perpetuate the pagan ways. In 1 Corinthians ch. 9 v.20 Paul the apostle says:- 'To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.'

As to Satan and Santa, yes, that may be a coincidence, but it doesn't change the fact that Santa is not of God, therefore, it is of Satan, because it directs people away from God's ways.

You stated,

"I would much rather take something away from the pagans and distort their ideas then have it the other way around. It makes me angrier to think that the rainbow is no longer a sign from God but a sign of homosexual pride."

That is very admirable but that is not the way of God. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, but give unto God what is his. Otherwise, let Satan have what is his, do what God wills. This allows the Spirit to lead others by using the Remnant of God. God will reclaim what is his.

You also said, "It isn't just one day, we take a "season" to honor Him." , But, Christians don't and I doubt most Christians, that you know, do either. In the post, that I'm writing now, there is a poll, where most Christians, devote less than .005%, of their time, to God and unto Jesus, during this "season". The rest is devoted to the pagan rituals, such as adorning Christmas, trees and houses, giving gifts, burning incense in our sanctuaries, etc. Most give God a pittance of only 1-2 hours of worship.

I know that you are a rare Christian, during this time, but most are not. It is more hypocritical to give rationalization and Jesus lip service during this season than living our lives Monday through Sunday, January through December. The Remnant of God needs to begin standing up for God's ways and start standing in the gap.

To reiterate, there is no problem using this season to celebrate the birth of Christ. However, use it to advance God's ways, not perpetuating Satan's Pagan ways. As mature Children of God, we, should be working hard to show that every day is the celebration of Jesus' Birth, Life and Resurrection, not this season when the message gets muddled up with Satan's distractions.

Tim said...


Are we supposed to celebrate any day as a Christian anyway? Are we supposed to celebrate Passover? After all, thousands of deaths happened that day.

You say we should assimilate into the culture. I say yes to that! But this season is one way we can. If we celebrate Christmas with lights, especially those who put a nativity scene in their yard, isn't that what you mean? If we give to charities that stand out in front of grocery marts, hopefully one that is connected to Christ, isn't that what you mean? Do you visit people in the hospital during this time period (rhetorical question), because that would be a good way.

Give to Caesar...I agree with what you said. But that is why I put a modifier on my statement. I would "much rather"...

I have never seen anyone burn incense in church. Where have you been that has done that?

My point about the dates is that you write down Tuesday January 16, 2018. When (if) you write it are you paying homage to Tiw? Or Janus? And then on the day of the Sun, we go praise the Son. We should call it Sonday.

I agree with 100% of your premise. 100%!!!!! But in practicality we nee to see what we can do and what we actually do before we get angry with a season that is still a dedication to Christ.

By the way...was Jesus wrong for celebrating Hanukkah? Just acting like Paul. :)

Keith said...

Tim, We are not "supposed" to do anything. It should be our desire to follow God's ways. As for Passover and the other feasts, they were ordained, by God, as an appointed time of celebration. If you want to celebrate, then celebrate in the way that God ordains, not the world. If I come across as angry, I apologize. It was not intended as such. I am passionate about getting mature Christians to start standing up for what is God's.

Presently, I am in the 13th year of trying to get Karrin and the kids to stop ordaining a Christmas tree. We do celebrate Sukkot as the true Christmas, so I am making headway. Brandon and Angela are on board, but Karrin wants to keep it for Stephanie and the children. Madison is showing signs of walking with God, as she likes to light the Menorah and hear why. The point is, "What are mature christians doing to advance God's ways, instead of perpetuating the pagan ways?"

Once again, this has nothing to do with our salvation. However, it does effect our relationship and how close God walks with us and us with him.

My anticipated answer to Paul, as to Jesus celebrating Chanukah, the Bible gives no prohibition concerning celebrations, such as Chanukah, weddings, birthdays, etc., except when those celebrations incorporate pagan rituals. Jeremiah 10.

Laurie Collett said...

Dear Brenda,
As your poems so beautifully illustrate, Jesus Christ giving Himself so that we could have eternal life is the best gift of all, and the world's vain attempt t9o fill the emptiness with materialism will never satisfy. That being said, my family and I enjoy celebrating Christmas as a reminder of the Word becoming flesh, and giving gifts as a remembrance of the greatest Gift.
May God bless you and yours richly in 2018 and until He comes again,

Paul G said...
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Paul G said...

Well, isn’t that amazing that none of you can see that nearly ALL the worshippers burn incense in their churches to their false gods.

For that reason most churches and their worshippers are unacceptable to the Lord my God Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
They may lift up their hands like in a rock concert and worship Satan THROUGH a man called Y’suha, or is it THROUGH Santa ?

Well, either way, they burn INCENSE in their hearts to their false god and can not even see it.
And even worse, some pray THROUGH one god to another god and at the end of their prayer they bung on a magic formula “in Jesus Name”.

Well, if that is NOT burning incense than what is ?

Well, I’m not really finished, the Lord My God has a lot more to say about that.

The Teacher said...

You have the right spirit about it.

Paul G said...

Some of you may think that the Lord Jesus Christ is some kind of a Santa Claus who came to OFFER you a free gift of eternal life.
But in that you greatly err, not knowing the truth nor do you know the power of God.

Not even Santa would OFFER you any gifts, even though he is a liar and a deceiver but he is known to every child as a gift GIVER of gifts and NOT someone who OFFERS gifts.

And what do you think of my God the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, do you think that He came to OFFER you the free gift of life ?

I don’t think so !
For if He would OFFER it to you, you surely would reject it just like you reject the Lord Jesus Christ as your ONLY GOD, and as the GREAT ‘GOD’ our SAVIOUR (Jude 1:25 and Titus 2:10-13).

Well, today I am OFFERING you a Christmas present; and have you noticed, I have NOT given it to you.
Hmmm; I wonder why ?

Paul G said...

And look, Santa has given you and most churches and their children a present, the TRINITY !

THREE persons who are together ONE GOD.
But of course, only the spiritual mind can understand that and the natural mind can NOT understand the gift which is from Santa Claus.

After all, you think that it is Santa who has given you the SECOND person of God to save you.
Well, it makes sense that when the first person (Santa Claus) is too busy to save you, he surely will send the second person his son to save you.
But really, it the first person who does the saving THROUGH the second person the son so that the third person might be happy.

And then all the churches will sit in front of their decorated tree and give thanks to Santa for his lovely presents, the TRINITY. :-(

Brenda said...

Hi Laurie,
I agree that there is nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas as a reminder of the birth of Jesus - the great gift giver. What my post is saying is that Jesus being the gift giver (the wise men recognizing that also) is being totally left out of the celebration, and I think this is very sad. I buy my son and his family gifts too, but I would never promote the 'Santa' figure.
God bless you and yours too Laurie.

Brenda said...

I agree, Tim, Laurie has the right spirit about the celebration of Jesus' birth at this time and any other time of the year.

Brenda said...

most of your commenting is foolishness, and some very sadly blasphemy.

As Ephesians ch. 2 vs. 6-8 states:-

'And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God,…'

However, I am not your judgePaul - that written Word is your judge.

Keith said...

I think Paul has finally lost his mind.

Brenda said...

I am hoping it is the carnal mind that he has lost and that he will eventually have the mind of Christ.
As 1 Corinthians ch. 2 vs. 14-16 reads:-

'The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 'For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?' But we have the mind of Christ '

The Teacher said...

What I have noticed is Paul has this plan of ignoring me on purpose. It's ok Paul. I know how weak minded you are and how difficult my questions are for you.

Your last few posts are nonsensical just plain ridiculous. Do you even know what you mean? I would ask you to explain but you'll:

1. Won't answer because I'm the one asking
2. Will say we won't accept it so why tell us, but that is not consistent with what you do. And it also goes against the great commission, so you should tell us.
3. Won't answer because you don't know either.

As I keep stating people, answering him is just a waste of time. All he is doing is making us irritated and he is doing it on purpose.

Brenda said...

I have to say Tim that Paul does not irritate me. I only answer him when I feel that scripture speaks appropriately against what he has written. I almost feel sorry for him, as he repeats and repeats the same anti scriptural words that would have to be obvious to anyone who would 'search the scriptures to see if this is so'.
I believe it is good to have a discussion, but I feel the only person who appears to be 'argumentative' is Paul, and that proves in itself that the wrong spirit is in him.

'For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.' 2 Timothy ch. 1 v. 7

I have to say that I do not find any of these spiritual qualities in Paul.

Keith said...

Tim, I think you hurt his feelings.

Paul G said...

Yes Brenda that is exactly what I was saying, it was the GIFT of God and NOT an OFFERING.

I do NOT blaspheme.
If you think that I blaspheme, then show me where and quote what I have said.
The unbelievers said the same thing to my Father the Lord Jesus Christ when He came to call the lost sheep to Himself (Mark 2:7) “Why does this man speak that way ? He is blaspheming; … “

As I have said, I honour my Father who is the creator of heaven and earth Jesus Christ and He has commissioned me to expose the god of this world who has blinded the minds of the unbelieving.
My brother Elijah mocked the god of this world called Santa, or was it Baal ? :-) whichever, makes no difference who could not even light the sacrifice. (1 Kings 18:27)
And what do you think, can your god Yahweh light the sacrifice ?
I don’t think so Brenda.
Look what the Scriptures said, (Acts 10:43) ALL the Prophets testified about JESUS, and even Jesus Himself said, “Moses wrote about Me” (John 5:46).

Can you see, Elijah and all the prophets talked about my Father the Lord Jesus Christ just as I do.

Look Brenda, it’s time for you to repent (publicly) and start the new year with the TRUE God Jesus Christ and forsake the god of this world Yahweh, Isaiah 63:16 “You O Lord are our Father
and our Redeemer.”

For he who is in Christ is a new creation, old things have passed away and behold ALL things are new.
Remember, step two is still open and I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you in presenting Jesus Christ without restraint to this evil and wicked world, so that whosoever shall call upon the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ shall be saved.

Brenda said...

this is where your words are 'blasphemy':-
'They may lift up their hands like in a rock concert and worship Satan THROUGH a man called Y’suha, or is it THROUGH Santa ?'

Just to mention - your spelling of Y'shua is wrong.
As far as 'through' Y'shua is concerned. Y'shua (Jesus in English translation), scripture says that He is the One mediator between man and God.

There are other scriptures which verify this.
Hebrews ch. 7 vs. 23-25 state:-

'Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.'

Brenda said...

Also Paul,
I see things different to you regarding 'Let us make man in our image'
as seen in my blog post:-

Paul G said...

Brenda, “They may lift up their hands like in a rock concert and worship Satan THROUGH a man called Y’shua, or is it THROUGH Santa ?” :-)

I don’t think so Brenda, that’s not blasphemy, I think that a god called Yahweh is worshipped THROUGH a man called Y’shua, that’s DECEPTION.
And look, why do you believe something which is not in the Bible ?
Yahweh and Y’shua are not mentioned in the Bible.

And yes, there is One mediator between man and God and that is ‘JESUS’ ! And NOT Y’shua.
Don’t say that you believe in the Bible when you clearly try to confuse the Scriptures.

Thanks for the link Brenda, and I have read that post a long way back, but that is NOT true.
You see, you need to start afresh, but this time in the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE.
As I have said before, that everything is wrong apart from Jesus Christ. And you can’t build on your own doctrines, remember it was Eve who was deceived and she was quiet deceived.

Brenda said...

It is blasphemy Paul,
you are calling YHWH Satan. This name was used in the Old Testament for God the Father, the One Who made Jesus our Lord. You even finally acknowledge yourself that Jesus is the One mediator between man and God. If there was no God the Father, then there would be no need of a mediator. No one needs a mediator between their self and their self.

Paul G said...

No Brenda, I do not blaspheme my Father, the Lord Jesus Christ.
And I do NOT have a mediator, because God IS my Father. It would be absurd for a son to have a mediator, nor even NEED a mediator.
Children have direct access to their Father without a mediator and He cares for them.

A mediator is for you, for those who don’t have a Father and those who don’t know the Father.
And for that reason you need to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

(John 5:43) Jesus said, ‘I have come in my Father Name, and you do not receive Me; if ANOTHER comes in his own name, you will receive him. How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God ?’

Brenda said...

We shall agree to disagree Paul, even what you have said in your comment is contradiction. If Jesus comes in His Father's name then how can He not have a Father. There is no need to answer foolishness when the proof is in the Written Word itself. I will not let people judge for themselves what is truth by looking into the scriptures themselves to find it. If you leave a comment that is scriptural then I will answer you and have a discussion, but if you leave a comment which has been repeated by you many times - that I have already answered - then I don't see the point of answering because it is obvious that you do not want to accept what is written in the Bible.

Brenda said...

should have said 'I will LET people judge for themselves what is truth by looking into the scriptures themselves to find it

Keith said...

Paul, When you change the Word Of God or misrepresent it as something different, you are desecrating and being irreverent to it. Look up the definition of blasphemy. When you change the Word of God, you are blaspheming God.

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