Many years ago I had recorded onto a cassette some poems and songs that I had written. They related part of my testimony. While I was living down in West Wales an elder of a church I was attending put them on an mp3 disc for me. As I know very little about this kind of technology I have just been to the library to ask if anyone can link this disc to my blog. A young lady there has done her best regarding this, and so I am going to see if this link has worked - the young lady was not sure if it would. Most of these songs and poems I may have already put up, and I am definitely no 'singer', and only learned a few chords on my guitar to be able to play the tunes that came into my head at the time of writing the songs.
However - one thing I learned at that time of learning from the Lord was that that as we are taught by God through His precious Word, and go through our trials trusting in Him, we are able to get stronger spiritually. My journey is still on-going, I am forever learning, and I will not know whether this link will work until I publish this post. If it doesn't work, then I will have lost nothing through trying.:-)
However - one thing I learned at that time of learning from the Lord was that that as we are taught by God through His precious Word, and go through our trials trusting in Him, we are able to get stronger spiritually. My journey is still on-going, I am forever learning, and I will not know whether this link will work until I publish this post. If it doesn't work, then I will have lost nothing through trying.:-)
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Wow! At first, that is the only word that I can muster.
What a great testimony!
Also, you have a beautiful voice. God has definitely blessed you.
As I listened, two things struck out and pierced my heart.
1. I love the point that you made that we should never lose the innocence of heart, in order to listen to the spirit.
2. We all battle with sin on a daily basis. We all must go to God every day with a humble heart.
Thanks again, for reminding us of our position and friendship with the God of the universe, through his loving son, Y'shua ha Mashiach.
Hi Keith,
our testimonies are always on going aren't they? I was glad that I have been able to share that part of mine due to the help of the young lady in the library, although I do not know enough about Cloudsound - but it worked! I love singing the songs that drop into my head regarding the Lord, but I would not agree with you concerning my voice Keith - I hear many faults there, but that is not what it is about is it eh? :-)
I guess I have to tell you the same thing that I tell my kids, Don't sell short what God has given to you. Remember, beauty comes from not only what it sounds like, but what it says. I stand by my comment. :-) May God bless you l, my sister!
Thank you Keith,
that is how I see the Lord's beauty - through His Words.
May God bless you too, my brother, and all your family.
Hi Brenda! What a treat it was to hear your voice! Such a sweet voice too, and I think your singing is lovely, you shouldn't sell yourself short there. You have a wonderful gift, both in thoughts and music, and I can see why you enjoy both so much.
God blesses us with gifts that we should use, and I'm glad you're using yours!
Thank you for sharing your poems and songs with us!
Ceil
Hi Ceil,
thank you for your kind comment. I know I may not give this impression sometimes but I have always had a bit of a 'holding back' nature, and have only been able to do what I believe the Lord is telling me to do in His strength, and when I go to church gatherings I always feel more comfortable sitting at the back of the hall. So being on the internet and being able to interact with people all over the world from my little workroom is a wonderful 'gathering together', and I love the encouragement I get from your blog and all the others I am able to visit.
What a special privilege to hear your testimony, and in your own voice, my friend!
I could listen to your voice all day!
I sure can relate to that feeling of being "swamped" by too much information and too many voices trying to teach us the scriptures.
God bless you, Brenda..and I am glad to have you as my sister in Christ Jesus!
Hi Lisa,
how lovely to hear from you, I have been thinking about you today and here you are- amazing! I have to smile where you say 'I could listen to your voice all day' (It's not what my husband says :-))
I am also glad to have you as my sister in Christ Jesus too Lisa, and God bless you with all that He has for us - which is 'Yes' in Jesus.
What I meant to say Lisa regarding all that God has for us was 'All the PROMISES of God' - which are YES in Jesus.
Hi Brenda, I was listening to your tape, and testimony and it is good to hear your voice, you have a good singing voice and your guitar playing is also very good :-)
As to the spiritual content it would be to much to comment, for we have been talking much about those things.
I know that your heart is going the right direction but I can see that you believe in another God, other than the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth and that troubles me immensely, and also, I don't know how to say that nicely. Perhaps there is no way to say such a thing nicely.
Also, think that you need to listen what the Spirit is saying to you. I do not speak to you behind close doors put open so that everyone can hear.
Kind regards Paul.
Hi Paul,
it is good that everyone can hear all our conversations which have been going on for a few years now, and not just on my blog but also on yours and Keith's.
However, we must not forget that the God that you deny is the Father of the One that you worship (so it is written in the scriptures), and He hears all the conversations that we have and also knows what is in our hearts.
Understanding of scripture and knowing what the Spirit is saying, Paul, is given to us as we work out our own salvation, and it was Jesus Who said that the Spirit that the Father would send will lead us into all truth:-
'However when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth; for He shall not speak from Himself, but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak; and He will show you things to come.' John ch. 16 v.13
Do not forget that 1 Corinthians ch. 15 vs. 20-28 says:-
'Then comes the end, when he [Christ] hands over the kingdom to God the Father, after he has destroyed every ruler and every authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. That last enemy to be destroyed is death. For ‘God has put all things in subjection under his feet.’ But when it says, ‘All things are put in subjection,’ it is plain that this does not include the one who put all things in subjection under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to the one who put all things in subjection under him, so that God may be all in all.'
It is God the Father Who made Jesus Lord, our One mediator between God and man, 'UNTIL THE END COMES'.
We have had this conversation many times Paul, and I can only say to you what I believe is being revealed to me through that written Word.
Hi Brenda, yes, I am fully aware of what the Scripture is saying, I have a Bible just like anyone else.
And yes, I wish that you would hear what the Spirit is saying.
Is the Spirit saying to you that one God (called the Father) is sending another God (called the Spirit) to to lead you into all the truth and make the THIRD God Jesus your Lord ?
Brenda, it seems to me that you can't distinguish between a metaphor and reality. You still think that one God is making someone else (called Jesus) your Lord.
In other words, you think that a God called the Father had a Son and He made His Son your Lord.
Well Brenda, that is far from the truth.
This kind of thinking demands from you to believe in a false god and render the Lord Jesus Christ as a mere man and above all a liar. After all it is Jesus who said 'he who has seen me has seen the Father', and for us is but one God and that is the Father (1 Cor. 8:6).
And no Brenda, there are not TWO Lords, there is only ONE Lord and that is the Father just as the Lord Jesus Christ has said (Mat. 11:25).
The Lord Jesus Christ made it clear to you, (Isaiah 45:22) 'Look at Me and be saved, I am God and there is no other', Jesus Christ is the ONLY God our saviour (Jude 1:25).
I know that you say that you ought to live a life of repentance, but then, why don't you repent from believing in a false god when it is so obvious for everyone to see ?
'you think that a God called the Father had a Son and He made His Son your Lord.'
Where you say this Paul, it is not me - it is scripture that says this, and we can not add or take away from that written word.
We can encourage one another Paul, but we can not judge one another.
It is that written Word, our individual daily 'mana' given to us as we each journey to the 'promised land' that is our judge.
We each have to 'work out' our own salvation Paul.
Philippians ch. 2 vs. 11-13 confirms this:-
'and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Therefore, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now even more in my absence, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God who works in you to will and to act on behalf of His good pleasure.…'
Brenda, it is not required from you to add or take away from Scripture, it is required from you to understand and believe the Scriptures, especially when the Word of the Lord Jesus has come to you.
And don't say that the Lord has not spoken to you, let it be known to you for that which I say are not my words, they are the words of the Lord Jesus Christ whom I represent.
For that reason I expect you to listen and to heed the correction of the Lord no mater what men might say or think.
Remember (Prov. 27:6) "Faithful are the wound of a friend, but deceitful are the kisses of an enemy".
Brenda, the time is short and the Lord our God is at hand, and you supposed to be IN the promised land and not on the way, because all who were on the way have perished in the wilderness, save Caleb and Joshua.
The Lord makes it clear that you ought not to follow the mistakes of Israel who always have turned away from the Lord and made a god of their own making. For that reason ALL have perished and ALL will perish who believe in another God other than the Lord Jesus Christ who is GOD over all forever praised (Rom. 9:5).
Hi Brenda,
What a wonderful testimony, and also a pure, beautiful and soothing voice! God has and will use the voice and words He has given you to minister powerfully to others. Thank you for sharing this.
God bless you,
Laurie
Paul,
everything in the scriptures is discerned spiritually when we are born again of God's Spirit. Once we are born again we are taught the ways of God by the Holy Spirit,(which Jesus said the Father would send,) being part of the body of Christ on earth and having the mind of Christ. We go through a spiritual 'wilderness' journey(working out our own salvation) as we pick up our daily 'mana', andlearn God's ways.
Jesus had the Spirit of God in Him (Messiah means 'anointed One')and did not have a human father, and that is what we are born of when we are 'born again'- God's Holy Spirit. We are a new 'creation'.
Hi Laurie,
thank you for your kind comment. All glory to God, our beautiful Heavenly Father, who wants all to be saved and uses us all in different ways to do this.
God bless you Laurie.
Yes Brenda, I can see that you are in a spiritual wilderness, and in English it is called a confusion.
You supposed to be IN Christ and not in a wilderness.
Do you think that in Christ is a wilderness ? I don't think so.
You need to come home Brenda, it's time.
As I have said many times before, you need to come through the narrow door and that door is the Lord Jesus Christ just as the Lord Jesus has said, 'I am the door and any man has to enter by Me'.
Look Brenda, there is NO other way.
Leave everything on the outside including your spirituality, it's not acceptable to the Lord. Call on the NAME of the Lord and He will cause you to be born INTO the promised land and you will thirst no more.
Paul,
just as the Spirit of God was in Jesus' fleshly body while He was on earth, so too the Spirit of God is in believers' fleshly bodies while they are on the earth. That does not stop us from 'working out our salvation'. Even Jesus had to go through a process of learning, as stated in Hebrews ch. 5 vs. 7-9:-
'During the days of Jesus’ earthly life, He offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the One who could save Him from death, and He was heard because of His reverence. Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered, and having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him '
Just as it says in 2Timothy ch. 3 vs. 16 and 17:-
'All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly equipped for all good works'
This includes the scriptures regarding the Israelites leaving Egypt, travelling through the wilderness to the promised land.
God's spiritual Israel coming out of the world, learning from the Holy Spirit's enlightening of the scriptures (as in picking up our daily 'mana', not being like those who desired to go back to Egypt (the world), but being like Joshua and Caleb.
Just like Paul the apostle said, as written in Philippians ch. 3 v. 14, that he had not finished the race, I too:-
'keep pursuing the goal to win the prize of God's heavenly call in the Messiah Jesus.'
Paul, I was just listening to the news and they were talking about Madonna and her statement, about blowing up the white house. She said, "It was a metaphor." I thought of you. You, my friend, need to stay with the facts, instead of phasing in and out of metaphors. You need to stay with what the scriptures actually says.
Brenda, you said, 'During the days of Jesus’ earthly life, He offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the One who could save Him from death, and He was heard because of His reverence. Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered, and having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him '
Here again, without thinking you are using Scripture passages to demote the Lord Jesus Christ to a mere man.
Actually worse, you are making out the Lord of glory to be a disobedient sinner who also needs to be saved.
No wonder that you don't believe in Him. In fact, nobody in his right mind would believe in a sinner, and neither would they worship a sinner, and that is the reason why you have turned away from the true God Jesus Christ who is the only King and Lord of Lords (1 Tim 3:15) to another god called Yahweh and you worship him.
Brenda, that is called the Apostasy, the falling away from the Lord.
Those in the Bible and all of us, we do not worship a disobedient sinner but we worship the Lord our God Jesus Christ (Mat. 28:9).
Remember, there is only ONE true God and that is the Lord Jesus Christ (Jer. 10:10 and 1 John 5:20) and the other god is a false god, called the god of this world which is the devil (2 Cor. 4:4), and you and the whole world has gone after him (the false god) (John 12:19), Christians or no Christians, makes no difference. The Lord Jesus is not looking for Christians, but for BELIEVERS.
Therefore Brenda, it is time for you to turn back again to the one who has bought you with the price of His blood and forsake ALL other gods, for you belong to Him, Jesus Christ our Lord and ONLY God.
Thank you Keith for your comment. I love your zeal which you have for God, and I wish that that zeal would be for the Lord Jesus Christ and not for that false god called Yahweh.
Remember any other god apart from the true God is a false god which is the devil regardless what name you give him.
If the Lord Jesus Christ is the TRUE God (1 John 5:20), then Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Krishna and any other names are false gods, and are the gods of this world (2 Cor. 4:4).
You see my friend, in this world we have so many different denominations and ALL believe that they stay with the Scriptures and believe what the Scriptures says, but, do they ??
They all read from the same Bible, and why do they come to different conclusions ?
Can you see that the Bible alone is not good enough. A man needs the Spirit of God to house in him and then he knows God and understands His Word the Bible, and his testimony will be true.
Any man or woman without the Spirit is DEAD (Jas. 2:26), yes dead ! even while he or she lives. And remember, Jesus said that you search the Scriptures and you think that in them you have eternal live, but it is these (the Scriptures) who speak of Me, and yet you are unwilling to come to Me and have life (John 5:39).
And the key Word is that you need to come to Jesus! And turn away from any other god or gods.
Paul,
John ch. 5 vs. 24-27 explain everything regarding God and Jesus:-
'Very truly I tell you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in Himself. And he has given Him authority to judge because He is the Son of Man.'
Hey Paul, my seal is for the Lord and his Father, our God.
Once again, you misread the scriptures. 1 John 5:20 isn't saying that Y'shua, Jesus, is the True God. It's saying that his father is the True God. Let's look at it.
"We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life."
Read it again and notice the four pronouns. The second through the fourth is referring back to the first. That is just plain English. I don't even have to go back to the original text, to prove your assertions are incorrect. That pronoun belongs to the Father. Again, plain English.
As for denominations, I have been showing you that exact same thing. Denominations are of Satan.
The Remnant, that God keeps to himself, in every generation, is the true body of the Messiah. I have also show you that your beliefs have their genesis in or around 1300 AD. This was after the church began, thereby making your beliefs, part of an erroneous denominational belief system, not of God.
A Spirit led scripture reading is more enough. That's why I am so amazed that you would take the word of a "so-called scholar" over the Word of God and The Spirit of God, who leads you into all truth.
The scriptures, from the beginning, were for our benefit, to lead us back to the Father. Of course, the scriptures would testify of the one, who would be used to bridge that great divide, the chasm of sin, between us. That one being our Lord, Y'shua, who is one with the Father, who is one of the Father, but not the Father, himself.
Paul,
in your last but one comment to me you said:- 'Here again, without thinking you are using Scripture passages to demote the Lord Jesus Christ to a mere man.'
The scripture passage you was referring to was:-
'During the days of Jesus’ earthly life, He offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the One who could save Him from death, and He was heard because of His reverence. Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered, and having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him '
Do you not know Paul that all of these words are actually WRITTEN in the BIBLE. I did not write any of them.
Brenda, there is no such a thing as 'God and Jesus'.
Jesus is the Lord God Almighty come in the flesh and beside Him is no other.
Why is that so difficult for you to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ ?
It troubles me that you can't hear His Word and for that reason you don't believe in Him.
"a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live."
Brenda, you have not yet heard the voice of the Son of God, other ways you would believe in Him and worship Him.
Also, you cannot first understand the Scriptures and then after believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
No Brenda, it's the other way around, first you must believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and then He will cause you to understand the Scriptures.
There is no other way Brenda ! After all I am a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ, or more accurate I am an ambassador of the Lord Jesus Christ and of His Kingdom, and as an ambassador I ought to know everything concerning God and His Kingdom and I do not lie.
Hi Keith, NO, the Lord Jesus Christ does not have a Father, otherwise He could NOT be the Lord God Almighty the creator of heaven and earth, the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last as the Scriptures said in Hebrew 7:3.
You should have said, that He 'IS' the Father just as the Lord Jesus Christ has said (John 10:30). But obviously you don't believe in Him and therefore you have invented a god who is not God, a god by the name of Yahweh who's name is not even mentioned in the Bible.
I John 5:20. Yes, but for us is but ONE God and that is the Father (1 Cor. 8:6), Just as the Lord Jesus has said, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father" (John 14:9). In plain English, you are looking at the Father, in other words, the title Father belongs to Me (Jesus), I am it ! And there is no other beside Me.
And yes Keith, the Son of God has come, so then, why don't you believe in Him ??
The phrase, "the Son of God has come" or "God sent His only begotten Son" is metaphoric language.
It doesn't mean that God literally had a son, otherwise He literally needed a wife and then they would be a happy little family of gods.
Keith, you need to be reasonable and accurately divide the word of truth from error.
Brenda, perhaps use a reverse reasoning to your last comment and ask yourself, does a man who has no sin need to pray ? The answer is NO ! Only sinners need to pray.
Does a man who has no sin and never has sinned need to be saved ? Again the answer is NO ! Only sinners need to be saved.
The question then depends on whether you think that Jesus is a sinner or not? And you know what the Bible says to that.
If he is a sinner then he would also be a liar for claiming to be God (John 10:30 – 33).
And how can another sinner save you ??
Brenda, you need to think and have a sound and sober judgement, or else you will be judged by the Lord Jesus Christ, just as He has said, 'If you do not know that I am He you will die in your sins' (John 8:24).
Paul,
I don't see what anyone can say to you really, as you do not believe that Word. You accuse people of 'saying' things when it is that 'Written Word' that says it. All I can say is what Jesus said to the 'tempter', the devil - 'It is written.'
As for saying to Keith that God needed a wife in order to have a son - that is the way the carnal mind thinks, and if that is what you believe then you have to think the same way regarding a son needs a father.
Paul, The scriptures clearly show that Y'shua has a Father and that is Yahweh. Also, there is no place, in the scriptures, that claim that either Y'shua is the Father or where he claimed to be God. The aspect of the Father and Y'shua, being one is a spiritual aspect. That is very evident, if you read the whole Bible. John 10:30 does not say that Y'shua is the Father. Quit misrepresenting the facts.
Claiming that I do not believe in the Lord Y'shua, the Son of God, is very disingenuous and honestly, I thought we had gotten beyond that.
Finally, you phasing in and out of metaphors, for the sole reason of discounting what the scriptures actually say, is also, disingenuous and very misleading.
Brenda, you said, "As for saying to Keith that God needed a wife in order to have a son - that is the way the carnal mind thinks, and if that is what you believe then you have to think the same way regarding a son needs a father."
If you would know the Lord Jesus Christ, then you would know that the Lord Jesus Christ is NOBODIES son.
How can the Lord God the creator of heaven and earth Jesus Christ be somebodies son ?
Even the carnal mind can understand that, but you claim to have the mind of Christ and you still don't understand that. That amazes me.
When the Lord Jesus Christ caused Himself to be born into His own creation through a virgin just as the Prophets have foretold, Jesus Christ (God) told Mary that the Son to be born shall be "CALLED" the Son of God (Luke 1:35).
Jesus is only CALLED the Son of God because of His incarnation, He came in the likeness of Adam and looked just like one of us, a man, a son, and in that sense the Lord Jesus Christ is CALLED the Son of God.
But He certainly is nobodies son, by that I mean that Jesus Christ is not the son of another entity called the Father. To the contrary, He IS the Father just as much as He IS the Son, those are two titles belonging to Jesus Christ.
As I have said many times, that Jesus Christ IS the Father, because unto us is but one God and that is the Father and He was born into His own creation, and only in that sense He is CALLED the Son.
There are not two persons, but only one person Jesus Christ and He was in the beginning with God and He was God and He is God and there is no other ! No Brenda, no other !
Jesus is the FIRST and the LAST, and a father is always before the son, but Jesus is both, the Father and the Son, Jesus does not have a Father just as the Scriptures said (Hebrew 7:3).
Yes Keith, the Scriptures are full of passages where Jesus is God.
Isaiah the Prophet long ago said that His Name shall be called "Mighty God" (9:6), or 'Emanuel' God with us (Mat. 1:23) and many more.
All you need to do is to believe in Him.
And the Scripture clearly says that the Lord Jesus Christ has NO Father (Hebr. 7:3) "WITHOUT father, WITHOUT mother, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually."
That verse is speaking about the Lord Jesus Christ who is our priest forever.
John 10:30 because there is only one God and that is the Father (1 Cor. 8:6), therefore Jesus said that He and the Father are ONE, but you are saying contrary to Scripture that Jesus is NOT the Father, you are saying that Jesus and the Father are TWO.
If Jesus is NOT the Father, then Jesus and the Father are TWO ! But as Jesus has said, that He and the Father are ONE and the same.
And don't play silly mind games, it is obvious, if Jesus is not the Father, then THEY are TWO !
THEY is a plural and a plural cannot be ONE (a singular).
It's a simple math, and all school children know that, only those who are deceived don't want to believe the truth, they rather believe the lie.
Finally, the whole Scriptures is full of metaphors, you just need to discern which is which.
Paul,
all who are born of God's Holy Spirit are a new creation, the old man of flesh is what contains the 'sin', and that is what it means when it says in the scriptures that Jesus became 'sin'.
That is how Jesus was the firstborn of all 'creation' (being born of God's Spirit, a new creation), the first of many brethren (those to follow who would be a new 'creation' (born of God's Spirit).
We are born of God's Spirit, but it does not make what is in the flesh 'God'. Even when we are born of God's Spirit that still does not make us God. We become as one with Him (in Spirit), because God is Spirit.
'As a man thinks so he is'. We are what is inside of us, not what is on the outside, flesh. We must not forget, as God says in Isaiah ch. 55 v. 8:- 'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the Lord.
We, who have been born of that Spirit, are told in Colossians ch. 3 v. 10 that we have:-
'put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.'
Jesus was the Word of God made flesh, and God spoke everything into being THROUGH that Word.
Do not forget Paul that the Bible (the written Word} is a vocabulary, and just as when we speak we do not say 'yes' and 'no' at the same time, neither does God. We are spoken to, and taught, by God according to which of His words need to be spoken at various times as He teaches us. We are all taught individually, through that Word, by God - Who is Spirit.
How beautiful is that Paul!
Paul, My Friend. I'm sorry, but no. You are so wrong. There aren't any scriptures that say the Y'shua is God, the Father.
Now, if you would take off those erroneous, 1300AD, doctrinal glasses, and look at the scripture, in the light of the Spirit of God, you would honestly come to the truth.
As for Isaiah 9:6, it says that he will be called, not he will be. It is in the future tense. If the Messiah was the Father, it would have been put differently and he doesn't become the Father. Our Father has been our Father, forever.
...and Yes, Paul, I believe and trust in Yah Ehyeh, and his Son, Y'shua.
Next, it says 'he will be "CALLED"', reflecting or emphasizing his name. It even says, 'His NAME will be called'.
Wonderful: The Hebrew meaning of this word, 'pele', means, 'to wonder at, be extraordinary, hard to understand'. Wow! That is obvious, since many, like you, don't understand what his name means.
Counselor: The Hebrew word, Ya'ats, means "a counsel with a purpose driven plan. We both can agree that one, of Y'shua's names, is Savior. That's a no brainer.
The next ones run together.
Mighty: He would have the power of God.
God: He would be God-like.
Everlasting: Perpetual existence.
Father: The Hebrew word, 'AB', used here means a father of something, not 'ABBA', which means a personal 'Father'. The same word is used to describe Abraham. You wouldn't say Abraham is the our God, our Father. I won't argue this one, because, as you'll see, it becomes a moot point.
Now, how can his name incorporate all these things? Very simple, if you read the scriptures, for yourself, with the guidance of God's Spirit.
Our Messiah is called Y'shua, Emmanuel. Y'shua means, 'Yahweh Saves'. He was called Emmanuel, which means, God is with us, because Y'shua was a man united or one with God, God was dwelling within a man. That's what the Hebrew says. Once again, quite simple, if you take off your man-made doctrinal glasses. It doesn't mean he is God, our Father. However, Y'shua is the father or progenitor of all, who follow him. All of this fits beautifully within scripture, unlike you man-made doctrine, where you have to twist scripture and make it imaginary, to fit your man-made ideas.
You constantly say that Trinitarians are splittin God into two, when in reality. It is you that believe in a very convoluted version of a two in one God, very unscriptural.
Open your eyes. You say that God speaks to you....then listen.
By the way, Paul, Melchizedek is a metaphor. :-) LOL I had to say it. In all seriousness, even Paul says it, further in the chapter, if you would ever read the scriptures, in context.
This was so lovely Brenda. I really enjoyed listening to your singing, you have a very pretty singing voice and a lovely speaking voice too. Thanks for sharing this with us Brenda. God bless and keep you. :-)
Hi Sateigdra,
always lovely to hear from you. Thank you for your kind comment, although I would still say 'I am not a very good singer.' When I sing the songs I wrote about the Lord around the house I usually get emotional, and I am not a person who likes being in the 'limelight'. I used to love singing in the streets because people were not really watching me, they were just walking past, but I haven't taken my guitar out with me for a while when me and my friend go out with our leaflets.
Are you still blogging on the other site (was it word press?)If you are, tell me how to get onto it again as I don't know if you are still putting your posts on the one I have on my side bar.
God bless and keep you too Sateigdra. :-)
Hey there again Brenda,
I'm still blogging, not as frequent but occasionally on my redlikecrimson.wordpress.com site. Maybe I will blog on my blogspot blog some time soon again God willing.
Yes Brenda, I agree with you , although I have a little problem with the statement that Jesus became sin for us (2 Cor. 5:21). I do not see that the Lord Jesus actually became sin; became which sin ?
I see two types of sin, the original sin which Adam and Eve committed and then our own sins which we commit.
We are not guilty of Adam and Eve's sin, but we all have experienced the result of their sin in us, and in Adam all have died (in the spirit first), and we all were born spiritually dead and need to be born again. And also our flesh was polluted by the mingling of the DNA of the beast (animal) through the sin of Eve and therefore we all will die physically and latter receive a resurrection body.
So then, how did Jesus Christ became sin ? And which sin did He became ?
I just don't think that Jesus became sin in the literal meaning of sin and it would not make any sense.
2 Corinthian 5:21 to me is metaphorically stating the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ has taken the place of us, because we are full of sin in every regard, and He has taken our place and suffered on our behalf for all of our sins.
You said, 'We are born of God's Spirit, but it does not make what is in the flesh 'God'. Even when we are born of God's Spirit that still does not make us God. We become as one with Him (in Spirit), because God is Spirit.'
Well Brenda, I have a simple mind, I see that, when a person has become born again, the Lord Jesus Christ has made His abode in that person.
Now that statement can be said in many different ways.
Like, he or she is born of the Spirit, since the Lord Jesus Christ is that Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17) and it is Him who has made His abode in them.
Or he or she is born of God, because the Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY God there is (Jude 1:25), just as Jesus said, 'My Father will love him, and WE will come and make OUR abode with him' (John 14:23), but that does not mean that TWO persons will make their abode in you.
You said, 'Isaiah ch. 55 v. 8:- 'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the Lord,'
When we claim to be born again and God is supposed to abide in us, then God's thoughts should be our thoughts and His ways should be our ways.
But that is not so with the unbelievers, they do not know God and neither do they know His thoughts or His ways.
You see Brenda, if you love your earthly bridegroom with all your heart, with all your might and with all your strength, then surely you would know absolutely everything about the one you love, specially his name and his ways in all the details. In fact you would know him like no one else would know him and you would never join yourself to another, not even to his father, otherwise you would be called an adulteress.
Now, the same is with God, your heavenly bridegroom Brenda, you are supposed to be the bride of God, the bride of Christ, and you shall have NO other god beside the LORD.
Please tell me, which LORD and God is your heavenly bridegroom ??
Yes Brenda, I know that Melchizedek is a metaphoric, but then explain the reality of that metaphor ?
Every metaphor has a reality, otherwise the metaphor is useless.
Keith, I have showed you that the Lord Jesus Christ has NO father, (Hebrew 7:3) it is speaking about the Lord Jesus, after all, there is ONLY one who has NO Father and that is God and anyone else has a father. Please think when you read the Scriptures.
John 10:30 is Jesus claiming to be the Father, just read the Scriptures and think. In verse 33 all the devils accused Jesus for claiming to be the Father.
Do you think He is a liar ? Certainly NOT ! Jesus is the TRUTH (John 14:6).
Concerning John 10:30 I have put up a post and I have been challenging numerous trinitarian blogs and they were not willing to have a debate concerning John 10:30 and I also know why :-/
Keith, if you think that you can, then demonstrate it. I don't mind on whose blog, mine or yours or wherever.
As for Isaiah 9:6, yes, He will be CALLED, but by whom ? And, why don't you CALL Jesus Christ 'mighty GOD' ? And also 'everlasting FATHER' ?
Why do you CALL someone else mighty GOD and everlasting Father ? Obviously you are disobedient to the Word of God in the presence of all.
All of us who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, we CALL the Lord Jesus Christ mighty God and everlasting Father just as the Prophet has said.
No Keith, there was NO emphasizing of His Name; in Isaiah's day NOBODY knew His Name, because His Name was not given till the day of His incarnation (birth) (Mat. 1:25).
In Isaiah's day they knew God under the TITLE 'God or Lord'.
And NO ! His Name is NOT Y'shuah , nowhere in the Word of God (the Bible) is JESUS called Y'shuah. And when they blaspheme God's one and only Name, they do not say 'Y'shuah', they say JESUS CHRIST ! Just listen to them, those blasphemers who blaspheme the Name of the Lord.
And you are perverting His ONE and only Name, and there is NO other Name given ! Yes, I say that again, there is NO other Name given, only JESUS.
People need to know what it says and what it means in ENGLISH and not in a strange language which only few can speak, and I'm sure that you do not speak Aramaic or Hebrew anyway. Anybody can Google those languages, but the Word of God to us is written in ENGLISH, so that nobody of us is without excuse.
You said, 'Our Messiah is called Y'shua, Emmanuel. Y'shua means, 'Yahweh Saves'. He was called Emmanuel, which means, God is with us, because Y'shua was a man united or one with God, God was dwelling within a man. That's what the Hebrew says. Once again, quite simple, if you take off your man-made doctrinal glasses. It doesn't mean he is God, our Father. However, Y'shua is the father or progenitor of all, who follow him. All of this fits beautifully within scripture, unlike you man-made doctrine, where you have to twist scripture and make it imaginary, to fit your man-made ideas.'
Why then don't you believe that JESUS Christ is God with us ?
Just for your record, God has made His abode also in me, but then, why am I not called God with us ?
Wow ! now, Jesus has become some kind of a little father, a progenitor; well, what next ?
Perhaps the Lord Jesus Christ has also become a little god and of course a little father and perhaps also a little brother.
You need to believe the Scriptures and don't try to fit your doctrine into the Scriptures.
Yes, God does speak to me, otherwise I would be a liar, just as Jesus said, My sheep hear my voice.
If you would belong to Him you also would hear His voice.
Therefore make an effort and repent of your sins and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and the you shall be saved.
Paul,
Regarding the scripture:-
'My Father will love him, and WE will come and make OUR abode with him'
Jesus is One with God in Spirit (because He was born of God's Spirit), just as we who are born again of the Holy Spirit are all one in that Spirit, and one with Jesus.
We still can not take away the scripture:-
' Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered, and having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him'
Because Jesus has been made perfect He is the SOURCE of eternal salvation to all who obey Him. God has made Him our Lord.
He is the living Word to us while we are working out our salvation, and the word 'SOURCE' means:-
'a place, person, or thing from which something originates or can be obtained:'
We can only OBTAIN salvation THROUGH believing in Jesus. It is God the Father Who made Jesus our Lord.
Hey Paul, As for Hebrews 7:3, fact #1: It's definitely a metaphor, when the writer says it's a metaphor. Fact#2 Metaphors, within the Bible, cannot conflict with the literal interpretation of the Bible. That's the lesson, from Y'shua, himself.
As for John 19:30, I give you 1 Corinthians 6:17.
"But whoever is united with the Lord is ONE WITH HIM IN SPIRIT."
It's the same thing. You need to read the scriptures, as a whole, not here and there, creating metaphors, to suit your fancy, or your man-made doctrine.
I laid out the truth above, Isaiah 9:6 is talking about the name of the Messiah, not necessary his specific make up. Let's stay with the facts.
As for the Name of God, it appears 6,519 times, in the Tanakh, OT. His name is YHWH, Yah Ehyeh, God, the I AM. Just because you refuse the Truth, doesn't make it go away, my friend.
His Son's God given name is Y'shua or Yehowshuwa. Jesus is the westernized translation of the Greek version of his name, Iesous. I'm not sure whether he cares or not, that you mispronounce his name, but I am sure that you would get aggravated if we called you Paula, rather than Paul.
I do speak and write Hebrew and Greek. I thought that was evident. They are the original languages, in which the scriptures were written. To refute your claim that the English translation is the only language, all one has to do is compare one English version to another. They contradict each other in many places. The reason? Man is fallible and so is his uneducated, non rabbinic background. You can't translate without understanding the culture. By the way, I do want to start learning Aramaic, but time is the issue.
You asked, "Why then don't you believe that JESUS Christ is God with us ?
Just for your record, God has made His abode also in me, but then, why am I not called God with us ?"
Well, I have said many times that Y'shua is 100% God and 100% man, because God dwells within him, in the same way he dwells within us. The difference, as I have said many times before, is that he was perfect in his odedience towards God's Law. This is quite evident when Y'shua was made sin for us all, on the cross. God withdrew from him, because God and Sin cannot coexist in the body. That is why the Spirit of God ebbs and flows in and out of us, due to our free will and our depravity. We are called Emmanuelists. You just call it Christian. Christ like. Sound familiar?
Bottom line: You have to twist the scriptures to fit your man-made doctrine. Isn't amazing that all who read the English bible argue with each other, but those who read the original scriptures do not? That should tell you something, my friend.
Shalom Aleichem, my friend.
Not fair Keith :-(
'All who read the English bible argue with each other.'
I read the English bible, but I would call what I do 'debating, or discussing', not arguing.
Please excuse my dry sense of humour. :-)
By the way, I love learning what the original wording is.
Brenda and Keith, absolutely no !
If you are one with me in spirit, that doesn't make us ONE (entity).
If two people are married, that doesn't mean that they are one (entity), just think!
But God is ONE entity Jesus Christ our Lord and only God, and beside Him is no other.
Keith, I did not say that the English translation is the only language.
I said that the Bible is the only Word of God, any other writings are not the Word of God.
And for us it's English ! because we all happen to speak the same language, which is English.
If something is said different in another language than what is in the Bible, then it is NOT the Word of God, it's that simple and don't make it complicated so as to allow you to have your own private interpretation.
And don't say that Jesus is 100% man and 100% God and somebody else called Yahweh is also 100% God. That is NOT true, you have learned that from the devil.
Why don't you say that Allah is also 100% God.
The trinitarians say that there are THREE persons and each of those THREE is 100% God, and some of them even claim to be scholars.
The Lord Jesus Christ has not given us a spirit of stupor, but of power and of love and a sound mind.
Yes, we all know that the Bible is full of metaphors, but a metaphor is useless, unless you will intelligently explain it, so that it makes sense to all of us.
Perhaps, first start with Hebrew 7:3 and then we will see.
Every intelligent person knows that "YHWH" is NOT a name.
Nobody can pronounce those four letters. Just try it !
How then can it be a name ?
Imagine, you would give your son those four letters as a name ? They couldn't even say it, what a confusion that would be.
Tell me, is "Jealous" a name ? (Ex. 34:14)
Also, if God's Son was with God from the beginning, then please tell me, from where did He get His Son ?
Paul,
the only way we can be 'one' in the spirit is if the spirit within us is the same spirit. If a person is one in the Spirit with Jesus it is because the Spirit of God is within them both. It is written that Jesus is the One mediator between God and man. That means that He is in the 'middle' of the two. Jesus 'interceded' for us when He said 'Father, forgive them for they know not what they do'
God is Spirit Paul, and it was the Spirit inside Jesus that was God, which teaches obedience to all of us, even to Jesus, as stated in Hebrews ch. 5 vs. 7-10:-
'During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the One who could save Him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.'
Jesus said in John ch. 6 v. 63:-
'It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life.'
He was speaking the Words of God.
Hi Brenda, I'm sorry, but I do find it "coincidental" :-0 that the major divisions or chasms (Denominations or Cults) materialized, soon after the English Bible was printed. I do believe that God has preserved his salvational doctrine, but the ethical, moral and relational information has been corrupted and perverted, at times. Look at Paul's doctrine. It is so far from what the actual scriptures say, I wonder if it doesn't effect salvation at times, especially when people blaspheme God or Y'shua. However, we know that the only unforgivable sin is Blasphemy against God's Holy Spirit.
Paul, My friend and Brother in Christ. The scriptures are true and reliable. Two questions for you.
If your Bible is so true and above all things, why are there major contradictions in them and between the translations?
Since your Bible tells you, at the beginning of practically every translation that it was translated from the Masoretic Text, why do you say that the Masoretic Text is false and ungodly?
That's ok Keith,
I don't think you understood my comment really. Written words do not fully convey the way something is said, especially when it sounds serious but is said in a gentle, humorous way. What I was referring to was you saying that 'all' who read the English bible argue with each other- which would include me. I have to say I don't like 'arguments', but know that I have to discuss things regarding the difference between 'doctrine of man' and what I believe is 'truth'.
Although I read the English Bible I do not believe in man made doctrines, and have never 'belonged' to a denominational church. I always go wherever the Lord leads me.
There are only two gatherings of believers that I have been led to, where I have seen all things operating the way it is written we should operate when we come together, and in both of those gatherings I have seen healings and miracles take place. That is one area in particular where I believe the traditions of man 'make void' the Word of God.
Brenda, you said, 'the only way we can be 'one' in the spirit is if the spirit within us is the same spirit. If a person is one in the Spirit with Jesus it is because the Spirit of God is within them both. It is written that Jesus is the One mediator between God and man. That means that He is in the 'middle' of the two. Jesus 'interceded' for us when He said 'Father, forgive them for they know not what they do'
No Brenda, that is not true, you have learned that from some kind of a deceiving spirit.
Look, you just don't understand the Scriptures and neither do you know the Lord our God Jesus Christ.
What can I say ?
Well, it is the Lord Jesus Christ who demands that you believe in Him and in NO OTHER ! Any other is a false God.
And I don't think that there is any earthly or spiritual authority over you to convince you to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ alone.
Keith, I don't know the 'Masoretic text', and neither do I comment on something I don't know, but I know the written Word of God which is the BIBLE and NO OTHER text.
Now, if another text or other writings says that which the Bible says, then why read the other text ? Why not just read the Bible ? After all, the Bible is the written Word of God suitable to correct you in doctrine and in conduct, and it is not for your private interpretation.
It is written, that if a man does not speak according to God's Word, then there is no light or truth in him (Isa. 8:20).
Hey Brenda, You are so correct, the written word doesn't convey the tone or sentiment, in which it is implied. Sometimes, I feel like adding in sentiment notes, next to my comments, like (tongue in cheek or he said jokingly). By the way, I got your humor. I was just continuing the thought. Also, I didn't want to imply that the remnant can't take in the whole of scripture, I honestly think, if you let the Spirit guide you, you can't go wrong. However, what we have seen, are people tend to get the wrong idea, because the English doesn't convey the full flavor of the message. I hope I said that correctly.
As for dry or sarcastic humor, I love it. I'm the same way, but it doesn't come across very well at times. :-)
Wow, Paul!!!!! You have been studying the Bible for how long???? (Great Astonishment Intended) And you've never heard of the Masoretic Text???? How about the Latin Vulgate or the Septuagint? The King James Bible is translated from all three of these.
You have got to get back to the original tongue and you can't say, 'There is no original tongue.', like you normally do, because almost every Bible has this acknowledgement. Go to the following link. It is a picture of very front page of the original 1611 King James Bible.
The First Page of the 1611 King James Bible
It reads:
THE HOLY BIBLE, Containing the Old Testament, AND THE NEW: Newly Translated out of the Original tongues: and with the former Translations diligently compared and revised, by his Majesties' special Commandment. Appointed to be read in Churches.
Now that's the crux of the problem. They contradict each other in numerous place, a common occurrence within all of the English language Bibles.
You previously mentioned that the translators of the English Bible, were far better scholars than I am. Well, there's a scribe error, within the original Masoretic Text used, that was copied right into the King James Bible. So much for the "Much Better Scholars". The so-called scholar copied and accidental repeat of a line in Leviticus 20:10.
Both the Masoretic Text and the KJV has the following:
"And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, the man that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
What it actually say is:
"And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death."
Of course, it was caught and correct by the Jewish scribes, but it remains in the King James Bible today.
This is a minor translational error. There are many others.
Keith, I didn't say that I never heard of the Masoretic text.
I know the history of most Bibles, but I do not debate the history.
The Bible is a complete Word of God in 66 books, nothing more and nothing less.
I do have in front of me a visually identical replica Bible of the 1611 King James translation with all it's printing and grammatical errors etc. even though it slightly differs from the modern KJV, but the context is the same.
Leviticus 20:10 it says the same as in all other Bibles with the same meaning. Whether you change a word here or there, makes no difference as long as it doesn't change it's meaning and the doctrine.
I don't know why you have a hung up about that.
Tom, Dick and Harry didn't wrote the Bible and neither did any translator.
The Bible is the Word of God and not the word of man, it is the Lord Jesus who is the Word of God and after all, it is He who wrote the Bible. It is He who is the Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17) and He wrote the Bible by men full of the Spirit of God.
You need to believe the Bible and NOT dissect it.
Look my friend, it is not your job to change or rewrite the Scriptures (the Bible), just believe it !
And don't try to change it's meaning to fit YOUR doctrines into it.
Hi Keith,
Although I do not like 'sarcasm' (as it contains mockery within it), I do like gentle humour.:-)
You are right when you say 'the written word doesn't convey the tone or sentiment, in which it is implied.'
I believe that the English translation of the Bible can be referred to in this way, as it is flawed, particularly if we just use a few verses to try to verify what a particular denomination believes in.
What I have found in my on-going growing as a child of God is that the Holy Spirit has a wonderful way of leading me into all truth as scripture is highlighted to me daily in a way that convicts and convinces me of that truth.
I thank God for His Son Jesus Who, being made the sacrifice, enabled this to be possible.
Hey Paul. Amen! Praise God! You have taken you first step forward in thinking for yourself. Thank You for looking up the error in the English translations. By the way, the Leviticus 20:10 reference was given to show that there are errors, not only in the Masoretic Text, but the King James and every other English translations. One error disqualifies the translation as inerrant and honestly that should bother you a lot. We are to search out the truth, not half truths. One day, you get back to the original Hebrew and Greek.
Another test, you should perform, is the B'rit Hadashah (New Testament) quotes of the Tanakh (Old Testament). It's obvious that the authors were reading and quoting the Septuagint, not the Masoretic Text, which makes the KJV and others obviously erroneous. Check it out. I double dog dare you. :-) LOL
Hi Brenda, I think humor, regardless of the form, should be evaluated or judge, based on the intent of the speaker, but gentle humor, it is, from now on.
I agree that if we are in the Spirit, we have a good chance at getting to know God, on a more intimate basis, regardless of the translation. However, why muddle through a mistranslation, when God has given you the tools to read the original text. Wouldn't you rather read the same scriptures that Y'shua and his contemporaries were reading and referencing? There are some that believe that the Kingdom language will be Hebrew. :-) Why not get a head start? LOL
Hi Keith,
I think it is many things that accompanied my reading of the scriptures (the signs and wonders)that have been part of the convincing and convicting. Such things as my 'being carried away to the third heaven', being transported onto a completely different road while driving away from a prison after a prisoner had asked me and my friend to visit his step-mother, having healings and a miracle performed in my body etc..
Although I am forever learning, nothing could convince me that there is no God. When I had my near death experience it was as if languages did not matter, it is hard to describe. The communication with others was as if it was based on total love and knowledge of others. Just as the colours were as I have never seen on earth, so was the communication.
It reminds me of 'Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.'
Hi Brenda, I agree that there are many things that facilitate our Godly relational improvement. However, we were discussing how the Word of God affects that relationship. When you are reading an error ridden translation, do you feel you are getting a quality conveyance of God's will? You cannot get a true look into a perfect God with an imperfect message system, especially when the perfect is readily available.
Hi Keith,
do you mean that I should learn the Hebrew language? :-)
I do find that the English language is not as in depth as even the Welsh language, and I have seen for myself that various different versions of the Bible actually contradict one another
What I do find helpful is that in my version of the Bible the footnotes give a lot of the original translation, and I tend to look online for the original translation when something does not appear to go together with other scriptures.
I find my mind is constantly on seeking the truth, and what is now coming into my mind is Matthew ch. 7 vs. 7 and 8:-
'Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.…'
This is what I am trying to say really, is that as we seek the truth, then scriptures become our thoughts which guide us. It is a gradual process as scripture (which we must check is correct) gradually teaches us line upon line, takes away fear in trials, proves itself true, and defeats the enemy that was a liar from the beginning.
Hi Brenda, I'm sorry I did not mean to imply that you had to learn the Hebrew and Greek languages. You don't have to do anything but trust in the Lord. Learning the original tongue, or at least referring to it consistently in your studies is all about nurturing and supercharging your inner desire to grow in the Lord. I do believe that owning the original language is the will of the Lord, but that's between you and God.
As the ultimate strategist, God has preserved is salvation on doctrine in all translations.
However, I know, for a fact, you cannot get the full ethical, moral and relational doctrine, without the original languages.
Are you aware that the Masoretic text, from which most English Bibles are translated, was deliberately changed, by the Jews, in order to counter the Christian movement. Depending on the version which you are using, you could be at least two versions away from the original text, that Y'shua, himself and the Apostles were using, when teaching his Talidim, disciples. As for me, I'm not comfortable with that at all.
Hi Keith again,
absolutely nothing to apologize for, I really did wonder if that was what you meant, that learning the original language was the way to understand the Bible.
No I was not aware of the Masoretic text being deliberately changed by the Jews, I have to admit I am no scholar in anything really.
I try to be obedient to all what I believe I am being shown spiritually, and I suppose because I believe that all things are possible with God I believe He has a way of speaking to me personally. How amazing is it that He spoke through an ass!
No Keith, I did NOT say that the Bible has errors. The Bible is the Word of God and has NO errors.
I said that the 1611 KJV has PRINTING and GRAMMATICAL errors.
And there are no errors in Leviticus 20:10.
I don't know why you can't see that, you need to read the Bible and NO other books or texts, and you need to DO what the Bible says and not what other books say.
Also, tell me, which God do you praise ? Yahweh ? I think that you need to praise the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth and not another.
All Muslims praise Allah, that is the same god as Yahweh and Jehovah and Krishna, but we who believe in the true God the LORD JESUS CHRIST we praise JESUS !
Hi Brenda, you said, 'It reminds me of 'Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.'
Numerous Christians quote that verse without actually understanding that passage of I Cor. 2:9 and leaving the hearers in some kind of a spiritual limbo state in 'la-la land'.
Brenda, perhaps your eyes have not seen, or your ears have not heard, and neither did it enter your heart the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.
But for us who know God and love God who is Jesus Christ, we are not ignorant of those things, just as the Scriptures say in verse 10, "For to US God REVEALED them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God."
You are referring to only half of the passage and the other, more important half you have left out.
So please don't think that I do not see, or hear, or fully understand what the Lord Jesus Christ has prepared for me and for all those who love Him.
Hi Paul,
I say again that I was taken to a place, the like of which I have not seen all over this world, and heard things that I can not speak about. My experience was the same as was spoken about in 2 Corinthians ch. 12 vs. 2-4:-
'I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.'
Nothing anyone will say can ever take that experience away from me.
Hi Brenda, You said, "How amazing is it that He spoke through an ass!"
I have been called worse. :-) LOL
But seriously, I agree, that God will lead us into all truth, if we are open to his Spirit.
Hi Paul, You said, "The Bible is the Word of God and has NO errors."
I totally agree, if you are referring to God's Bible, not a man-made bible.
You also said, "I don't know why you can't see that"
Again, I can't understand why you side with man, rather than the God who made you, loves you and gave his Son for you. It completely befuddles me.
Finally, you said, "Which God do you praise?
Well, I know of only one God, according to God's Word. That is YHWH, Yah Ehyeh. You can make up all the gods that you desire, but they are but a figment, of your imagination.
Only God is Worthy of Praise.
Only His Name, will I raise.
I will praise the name of Yah Ehyeh
All of my days.
Only God, Only God is Worthy of Praise.
Also, There is no Salvation, but the one provided, by God, through his Son, Y'shua, the Messiah. B'ruch Attah Y'shua B'shem Adonai.
Blessed is he, Y'shua, who comes, in the name of the Lord.
By the way, that's scriptural. Psalm 118:26 and John 8:12
"Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the LORD; We have blessed you from the house of the YHWH, Yah Ehyeh. YHWH, Yah Ehyeh is God, and He has given us light."
Mashiach Y'shua Shalom-Peace in the Messiah, Y'shua.
Hi Keith,
I love the way that the Lord opened the mouth of the donkey and had the donkey speak in a language that Balaam understood, and the fact that the donkey actually saw the angel of the Lord before Balaam did.:-)
I think it is reading of so many supernatural things in the scriptures, and having experienced so many supernatural things in my life, that causes me to believe that God can teach us in so many ways.
He knows in my heart that I want to be led into all truth, and I believe the Holy Spirit is sent to do that, through His Word and through signs and wonders accompanying that word. We could not have even gone to visit in the prison without a 'door' being opened and that itself being confirmed through the Word accompanied by an amazing sign.
I know that when the prisoner we were visiting on a lifer's wing had asked us to go and visit his stepmother, and had given us her address, we had said that we would do that. Yet when we left the prison we decided not to by thinking it might be wrong (leaning on our own understanding). Then, as I drove down the road leading home, we were transported in a split second onto a different road. I pulled into the curb absolutely dumbstruck. We did not know where we were, but as we looked ahead we saw the road fork and split into two. Right on the corner where the road divided was the prisoner's step mother's house. We could not believe it, and yet still did not go to knock on the door but turned around and found our way back to the other road. As we did we noticed that we passed the prison, which meant that we had been put on a road to the left of the prison when we had actually travelled initially on the road to the right of the prison. Absolutely amazing.
It was something we regretted and learned from. The more we followed what we believed was the Lord's instruction, the more amazing things we saw happening.
The experience reminds me of how Philip was carried away by the Lord to Azotus after baptizing the eunuch.
By the way, Keith, I would not call you an 'ass', or worse. Ha ha!
Saying that, I see nothing wrong with an ass. I have always loved all of God's creatures and could not even step on an ant when I was a child. If it rained I would be rescuing worms from the gutters in the street. You probably thing I am crazy :-)
Hi Brenda, I love it when you give all Glory To God and allow all things to teach you. I hope and pray that all of us will follow that lead.
I get emotional when I think of how God loves us all and:- 'is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.', and what Jesus had to go through for us to be reconciled back to God.
One of the most convicting scriptures in my walk with the Lord has been the one that says that if we sin wilfully we crucify Christ afresh. The main thing to learn is what is actually 'sin' in God's eyes, and this is a process because His thoughts are not our thoughts and neither are our ways His ways.
That Word is definitely a vocabulary, not a book, as sometimes I can be shown to make no friends with an angry man, and other times I can be told that if someone has something against me, to go to that person, and be reconciled. There is a time for everything, and I love how the scriptures are used to teach us at the appropriate time.
Absolutely all glory to God eh?
Hallelujah!
Hey Paul, One more question, what are your thoughts about the apocrypha books? Can we refer to them, concerning your doctrine?
Yes Brenda, but you are talking about Paul's experience (2 Cor. 12:2-4), and you claim to have the same experience as Paul had.
Please don't think that I am against your experience, the Lord knows that I am NOT.
But I do judge every spiritual experience anyone has, including my own.
If someone including myself has a spiritual experience, that does NOT give him or her the authority over the Scriptures and its doctrines, no matter how powerful that experience may be.
And NOT every spiritual experience is necessarily from the Lord our God Jesus Christ. But some spiritual experiences can also come from the prince of darkness who disguises himself as an angel of light. And Yes ! I can discern the difference.
Hi Keith, the Bible is called 'the Word of God', and if it is called the Word of God, then it is NOT a "man-made bible" as you have said.
And tell me, who is that God who loves me and MADE me ?
I wish that you would believe the Bible, for the Bible said that the Lord Jesus Christ has MADE me, "NOTHING came into being apart from Him", Jesus Christ MADE all things, whether powers or principalities or whatever, everything was made by Him and for Him.
If I am called a son of God, then obviously, the one who made me would be my FATHER, and if the Lord Jesus Christ made everything, then the Lord Jesus Christ is my Father who is in heaven.
It's not Einstein's theory my friend, you just need to repent of that false god called Yahweh and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and then you shall be saved.
So then you are PRAISING a god called 'Yah Ehyeh' ? but you told me that his name was Yahweh.
It seems to me that he changes his name like a chameleon changes its colors.
Well, I don't know anybody who praises a god called 'Yah Ehyeh', all believers praise the Name of JESUS, just listen in churches, they praise the Name of Jesus.
That would be another good reason for you to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
Who is He who came in the Name of the Lord ?
So then, what's the Lord's Name ?
The apocrypha books are NOT in the Bible and have NO authority in Bible doctrines.
Paul,
of course I can claim to have the same experience as the one spoken of in the Bible, that is not 'having authority over the scriptures and its doctrines'. There were many other people who were there, and it was as if my life there was reality and this life was a dream.
You will never be able to understand it if you have not had that experience yourself.
I cried for a week, telling my husband that I was in the wrong place, and was told by my husband each morning of that week that I was speaking in a foreign language in my sleep. I was only comforted really seven years later when I came up out of the baptismal water speaking in a language I had never learned after repenting and believing in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Yes, I know that the devil can disguise himself as an angel of light. How I can discern between the spirits is look into scripture and see what that Word says.
Hi Paul. The book that you have is not the Bible. Let me give you a little history lesson. Satan inspired the Masoretic Jews to change scripture, in an attempt to counter the Christian movement. Then, the translators of the King James, were inspired to take the erroneous Masoretic Text, put their doctrinal twist on it and translated into English. But, do you think your translators were finished? No, they went further and removed the Apocryphal books. Did you know that Apocryphal books were in the original 1611 king James? What gives the right to man, to add or remove books from the Scriptures? There is where the problem lies. The book, that you are reading is full of errors and man-made doctrines, not the original Scriptures.
As for Yah Ehyeh, it is clear that, in scriptures, if you would read them, God gave his name as I Am. Yah Ehyeh is Hebrew for God I Am,YHWH. It appears that you have a problem reading my comments, in the same way you have a problem reading the Scriptures.
What you are believing in, it is a twisted view of God and a twisted view of Y'shua, Jesus. You have Y'shua, Jesus, as a lying, sinful God. That is just not so.
You see, my friend, it is my job to put the truth out there. Whether or not you believe it, is between you and God and again, only you will have to answer for it.
Hi Keith,
I have the Apocrypha in my version of the Bible, they are good to read.
Yes Brenda, you can do that and I don't have a problem with that :-)
Look Keith, that is NOT true.
I have told you that I have in front of me a visually identical replica Bible of the 1611 King James translation with all it's printing and grammatical errors etc. even though it slightly differs from the modern KJV, but the context is the same.
And NO ! There are NO Apocryphal books in the 1611 KJV, and only the 66 books are the Word of God and any other book is NOT the Word of God.
And NO ! The names of Yah Ehyeh and Yahweh are NOT written in the Bible, and neither is 'I am' and 'YHWH' a name. You make up names which are not there, just read it, it's NOT there my friend !
You need to read the Bible and not the Bhagavad Gita.
It is you who does NOT believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord God.
You believe that a god called Yahweh is God, and Jesus is only some kind of a little god called the son, whether you say that Jesus is 100% God or not makes no difference, blind Freddy can see that you don't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Well, I read you very well my friend and the truth is JESUS (John 14:6) and not some kind of a wild story which is not in the Bible.
Hi Brenda. As we read the apocryphal books, we will notice that Y'shua actually quoted from them. Even though The Book of Enoch wasn't part of the original scriptures, Jude actually quoted from it, showing they were part of the scriptural readings at that time.
Paul, Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? If you do a simple search, you will find that the apocrypha was a part of the KJV for 274 years until being removed in 1885 A.D. As Brenda and I were discussing, Y'shua actually quoted from it. Satan has definitely got your mind wrapped around his finger. God has used us to show you the truth. Why are you being so stiff necked?
Keith, if I could win you for the Lord Jesus Christ I would rather be wrong. To me it's not a question of who is right and who is wrong.
It's a question of believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and in no other. The Scriptures said, whosoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall be saved and whosoever does not believe shall be condemned.
Therefore it is of great importance that you repent from believing in a god called Yahweh and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ with all your heart, and do not lean onto your own understanding, but trust in the Lord Jesus and He will make your path straight.
Paul, I gave you the truth. What you do with it is between you and God. I will follow God I will never follow the doctrine of man. One day we will both stand before God and give an accounting.
Paul,
can you not see that both Keith and I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son Whom God the Father has made our Lord, the Word of God spoken of in John 1 v. 14:-
'The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.'
Jesus was the firstborn from the dead, and that was after He was crucified, after the flesh had been crucified (being 'the lamb of God Who takes away the sins of the world').
He was the first of many brethren, and I believe Him when He speaks of His Father. Because the Father God has made Jesus our Lord, the One mediator between man and God, then that written Word contains all we need to grow in the Spirit once we are born again.
2 Corinthians ch. 5 vs. 18, 19 states:-
'Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.'
Thank God for Jesus.
Yes, Brenda! Very well put and scriptural.
Yes Keith, that day is NOW ! and you have to give an account to my God the Lord Jesus Christ, because, He is the judge of all.
Brenda and Keith, the 'Jesus' you are believing in, is another Jesus than we preach (2 Cor. 11:4).
We preach the Lord Jesus Christ as the Lord God Almighty, you preach Jesus to be a mere man.
There is a BIG difference in those statements.
And Brenda, which God do you thank for Jesus ?
Well, I think we both know which god you give thanks to. You never mention his name, perhaps his name is not in the Bible.
Paul, I totally agree with what you said about your Jesus being different than the Y'shua, which is depicted, within the scriptures. However, you are totally wrong about Y'shua being a mere man. That is not the Y'shua, that we teach about nor what the scriptures depict. While we are in 2 Cor 11:4, please look at 2 Cor. 11:3. Sha'ul, Paul, is talking about people like you, who are deceived by the serpents tongue.
If I can be so bold to answer for Brenda, everytime any of us says the Lord or God, it is the same God mentioned in the Tanakh. It is YHWH, Yah Ehyeh.
No Keith, you don't agree.
The LORD our GOD mentioned in the Old Testament is the LORD JESUS Christ.
Jesus Himself said that 'Moses wrote about Me' (JESUS) (John 5:46).
And also, all the Prophets of God wrote about Jesus Christ, just read Isaiah 9:6 where Isaiah said that His Name shall be called, mighty GOD and everlasting FATHER !
No one ever spoke about a god called Yahweh, Jehovah or whatever, they all spoke about the Lord Jesus Christ. They just didn't know His Name, because His Name had NOT been given in the Old Testament.
Why don't you believe ? And why are you so stiff-necked ?
I love the way John ch. 5 vs. 19-40 explain so much about who Jesus was, and the authority He had, when the Jewish leaders tried to kill Him for calling God His own Father:-
'Jesus gave them this answer: 'Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed. For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honour the Son just as they honour the Father. Whoever does not honour the Son does not honour the Father, who sent him.
'Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.
'Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
'If I testify about myself, my testimony is not true. There is another who testifies in my favour, and I know that his testimony about me is true.'
'You have sent to John and he has testified to the truth. Not that I accept human testimony; but I mention it that you may be saved. John was a lamp that burned and gave light, and you chose for a time to enjoy his light.
'I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the works that the Father has given me to finish—the very works that I am doing—testify that the Father has sent me. And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.'
No wonder the Father is called 'I AM WHAT I AM' OR 'I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE' in the book of Exodus. He was in the man Jesus, Spiritually, Whom God used as His mediator, and is in all of us, Spiritually, who have become a new creation in Christ Jesus, Y'shua - 'God saves'
A Big 'AMEN SISTER!' You can't say it any better than with the Word of God, Brenda.
Paul, Pay perticular attention to:
And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.'
The Father testified, concerning Y'shua. How? Through the scriptures.
As for Isaiah, I have already shown you the scriptures, which is the truth.
Yes Keith, I wish that you would believe that.
Paul, So, you agree? I'm glad we can agree on some things. Maybe it's a indication that God is finally getting to you.
Hello Brenda~~ what a joy to have found your lovely Blog.
You have a beautiful testimony, one that certainly brings glory to our Precious Savior.
As I listened to your gentle voice while singing and sharing your testimony, I couldn't help but focus on the goodness and grace of God.
Thank you for sharing your faith so beautifully.
I look forward to following along with you.
God bless you~~
"Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and seek him with the whole heart." Psalm 119:2
Hello Debbie,
lovely to meet you. I am so glad that my testimony (which is only a small part of it actually) shared the goodness and grace of God. I know that without His grace and goodness I would be a total wretch as the warfare is spiritual and His Word has a power in it that has already won the battle for us. All we have to do is trust, and endeavour to act on that Word spoken to us daily regardless of what the carnal mind's argument.
One of the scriptures that was spoken to me when I first became born again of God's Holy Spirit was:-
'Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, acknowledge Him in all your ways and He will direct your path' and it is still proving itself true in my life.
I am forever learning, but I could not have a better teacher.(I am sure you will agree).
God bless you Debbie, and 'Amen' to your lovely scripture quote.
Hi Brenda, I'm listening for a second time to your testimony recording. You have a lovely speaking/singing voice and are such a talented writer, poet, musician and songwriter. Your words are always beautifully poetic but clear and understandable — and I can relate so much to them. It's wonderful you are using your gifts to shine our Lord's Light into the "foolishness of this present world." I'm sure many will be Blessed by your testimony as I have been. Thanks for sharing! Jephyr
Hi Jephyr,
how lovely to see you. I visited your blog the other day but did not have time to listen to view all the video. We have had lots of work going on in the house for a week with a lot of noise going on - finished now, so I will be over today to listen to the rest. Your artwork is lovely too.
Thank you for your very kind comment - though all glory goes to the Lord, He is the love of my life and without Him I would be able to do nothing. Ever since I was a child I had a bit of an inferiority complex, and I know that I could never imagine playing a guitar and singing out in the street, never mind the rest of it.
Brenda,
Awww...so nice hearing from you today. It has totally been a Holy Spirit day for me. I am well in the Lord. Thank you for visiting. I think of and pray for you often as the Lord brings you to mind as well. We have that spiritual connection. I just visited your blog. Haven't visited since your posted dream in Oct. Oh my, I have missed alot. I will go back to read those posts. But I had to listen to your testimony in song and word. It was marvelous! You are most assuredly one gifted lady. I so loved hearing your voice through song. WOW! What a JOY that was for me. Thank you for sharing that. I saved the link so I can listen again and again. God sent you to minister to me today. He's shifting things in me and your visit and your testimony was confirmation of this new season He is preparing for us.
Blessings to you, my friend. I'm so blessed that He has brought us together through Blogger. I only wish we could somehow share our e-mails without the entire world having it too.
HUGS
Patrina
Patrina,
it is a real joy to hear from you, and I am so glad that you got something from my shared testimony - all glory to the Lord. I am no 'professional' singer, but that is not what salvation and building one another up in the Spirit is about.
There are many things happening in my life too at the moment and I believe that every interaction with brothers and sisters is for a reason. I am still not very good at lots of things regarding technology, but you are welcome to send a message to me anytime you like.
God bless you
Brenda
Brenda, I honestly had tears in my eyes after the first song. What a beautiful message and heart wrenching feeling. I would like e to have the while CD if I could. It has the flair of a lullaby with the emotions of a true worship, both of which I enjoy. I'm sorry your post here was high jacked. It is shameful when someone pours their heart into something only for someone else to not hear the true message and try to take the spotlight for their own gain. Loved this posting and I will be listening over and over again.
Sorry about my typos. Did this from cell phone.
Hi Tim,
is it Tim from Controversial Christian? I am not sure, because when I clicked on your name the website did not come up.
It is lovely to hear from you anyway, and thank you for your lovely comment.
The spotlight is on our lovely Lord who is able to bring us through all that the enemy would try to inflict on us. In Jesus is victory!
God bless you Tim.
Tim from Bible Lessons/Christian Thoughts. I was on my cell phone and that goes through a diferrent account. This one should lead you back to the one you know.
Aw hi Tim,
it is lovely to hear from you, and thank you for your lovely comment.
That part of my testimony is all that I have on a disc, the rest is in writing, blogging and sharing with people I meet, whether believers or non believers - as I am sure you do.
Thank you for putting me in the picture regarding which Tim you are :-) I will come over to your blog for a catch up.
God bless you with a happy Easter time.
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